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By: Report: iOS Could End iPhone Jailbreaking (Updated) | iPhone Greece | iPad 2 | iPhone 4 | iPhone apps | iPod Touch

Thu, 12 May 2011 13:06:14 +0000

[...] a tech blog with a small but growing profile online, has published what it says is leaked information from an anonymous employee at Apple alleging that the new iOS [...]

By: Report: iOS Will End iPhone Jailbreaking | iPhone Greece | iPad 2 | iPhone 4 | iPhone apps | iPod Touch

Thu, 12 May 2011 13:05:56 +0000

[...] a tech blog with a small but growing profile online, has published what it says is leaked information from an anonymous employee at Apple alleging that the new iOS [...]

By: Pourquoi FaceTime n’aime pas la portabilité du numéro – Casualtek

Pourquoi FaceTime n’aime pas la portabilité du numéro – Casualtek — Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:33:32 +0000

[...] cela expliquerait la rumeur selon laquelle « les serveurs d’Apple reçoivent des messages à chaque fois que deux personnes sont connectée… » (des messages pouvant d’ailleurs n’être liés qu’à la connexion [...]

By: aishvarya

aishvarya — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:03:59 +0000

Hey can you tell me where model number MC603B or MC603ZP from?

By: aishvarya

aishvarya — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:57:20 +0000

I have a factory unlocked 4g, which was jailbroken but the facetime feature was not working so i upgraded to 4.1 and its still not working can anyone please help me.
Facetime is visible in settings>phone, it is on and says your number will be shared etc… but when i call another 4g it keeps ringing even if the other person answers, and if anyone calls me i dont get a call. PLZ PLZ HELP WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT.. cuz im freaking out its a brand new phone. Im in India (FaceTime is working on other 4gs here)

By: Hussein

Hussein — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 11:05:18 +0000

they already removed my facetime option after i updated my ios, uncivilized, i cant even own my device, have they learn anything, THIS WILL JUST FUEL ME TOP JAILBREAK TOMORROW

Middle east iPhones have Face-time Removed completely after 4.1 update, its
really not civilized from Apple. models sold in Saudi Arabia, UAE
have these numbers:

MC605AE/A and MC603AE

iPhone 4 units
sold by the following carriers:
*Saudi Arabia: Mobily
*UAE:Etisalat

iOS 4.1 kills facetime on specific iPhone 4 units. you
will have FaceTime deactivated once you upgrade to iOS 4.1 (from iOS
4.0.2)

By: mike

mike — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 02:59:07 +0000

A – FaceTime Community

Where You Not Only Can Meet New People, but CONTACT Them…FACE 2 FACE! ™

http://face2facecontacts.com/

By: Steve Ballmer Fags

Steve Ballmer Fags — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 19:41:54 +0000

Aww, is Steve Ballmer Jobs feeling butthurt alluva sudden? What an Applefag. LOL

By: john

john — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:06:03 +0000

I have never seen so many ignorant people before. One comment that makes me laugh is the one about him wanting his identity hidden and that its a fairy tale. This is a huge corporation and these people that work there are making some good money not including benefits and cheaper prices for their products and they do make good stuff. If this does go into the privacy of the people this would upset someone. A lot of things are happening today with our rights being trampled on and with all the invasion of privacy its getting ridiculous and we need people to speak up. If this is true I would hope that these insiders who are witnessing this will find evidence and share it to the appropriate authorities. You would be surprised how many companies do this and will go through a lot to get any information they can for many reasons. Marketing is huge and any information to help a company be the top dog is treasured. I wouldnt doubt anything because apple is a big lier and greedy as they come. One example is the 3.1.3 firmware update. The reason for it was to mess with jailbreaks. They use the excuse it was for the battery but they did not share everything that was in it. We bought our devices and they still own it. Ya!!! You see they want to say what you should do with our devices. Now that jailbreaking has been said to be completely legal and fairgame they want to know everything. I wouldnt put it past them to try to put something in your device to mess up your jailbreaking. There are a lot of conspiracies about tons of things out there today but did you know that behind every legit conspiracy there is some truth to it or even all true. People today have become so lost because of media, television that they think anything that might stir their little world must be bull and that the word conspiracy has become a word that everyone sees as not being a possibility. Once you attach that word to a sentence everyone cries hollywood, movies,fairytales. Theres a lot going on today but everyone is blind because they need to unplug.lol. Thats a fact. Technology has made people lazy in many ways, which has allowed certain people to become the powers to be and this is one of those instances where our rights are slowly, being taken away. You cant even have a discussion because of fear. Those who are quick to curse, call people names, and discredit or make fun of anyone who discusses a conspiracy theory or what I like to call the basic truth the majority of the time, are a people with fear all over there face but will not admit the possiblility because they are to scared to even discuss its reality. Unplug and educate yourselves and always keep an open mind. Just look to the past, history will show you all that took place and all that is possible. You might be saying this is just apple. No!!! This is our freedom, our rights, and our privacy. Last thing I will say. Research before you yap and also look at how much privacy has been discussed and how much we have lost since 9/11. Dont be fools because these corporations and governments are all one way connected

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:01:08 +0000

I have worked for Apple. I call bullshit. This person didn’t just have a few typos, those are outright spelling mistakes. This is some 16 year old kid fucking with you.

By: FaceTime on iPhone 4 and Etisalat

FaceTime on iPhone 4 and Etisalat — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 05:25:11 +0000

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By: ShadowEO

ShadowEO — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:36:47 +0000

That’s completely incorrect, they can’t lock your phone down if it’s not visible on their network. Unless it’s got two cellular modems and two basebands, I highly doubt that the phone can or would receive messages from Apple or AT&T. This goes for any unlocked smartphone. Your original carrier cannot re-lock it automatically.

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Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:01:29 +0000

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By: Apple & AT&T May Prevent iPhone Jailbreak With OTA Updates - iphone Universe

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:16:10 +0000

[...] sent to your iPhone. Does that sound wacky? If not, read this “tip” that was sent to some unknown blog called Addictive Tips from a so-called Apple insider. How it works is every 7 to 14 days We (Apple) and AT&T send a [...]

By: norcencal

norcencal — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:34:28 +0000

If a customer requests an unlock subsidy code from AT&T (which AT&T will provide if you have completed 6 months of your contract or if you’ve been with AT&T for “x” amount of time) and enter that subsidy code into your iPhone 4 you can use it to roam internationally. I just set this up for my boss who is in Japan.

By: Apple Stealing FaceTime Information, ATT Locks Out Jailbreaking/non-ATT Networks VIA OTA Updates - Android Forums

Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:33:17 +0000

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By: Darwin

Darwin — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:50:33 +0000

I call BS. Your poster is obviously semi-literate. A supposedly Apple employee who gets common Apple acronyms and abbreviations wrong. I can tell you for a fact that “most” Apple employees do not have jailbroken iPhones. You say you have proven and double checked this but you don’t say how. I think you are doing this for page views.
I see a lot of very uninformed comments here. You can opt out of location services which Apple has publicized.
Google collects dramatically more personal information. Somehow Apple is the bad guy for the jealous and uninformed.
Carriers are highly regulated because they are a public resource. All carriers have a legal responsibility to keep their connectivity secure and reliable. All of them collect extensive information for this purpose.

By: galdo

galdo — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:10:06 +0000

there has to be a way to modify a host file or something to disable this info leak when the phone is jailbreak.

By: Kaatje Galway

Kaatje Galway — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:38:03 +0000

I can confirm that the last time I called into iPhone support, the agent knew my firmware and baseband version as he stated them to me and asked if I had jailbroken my iPhone. I played stupid and said what is jailbreaking? He helped me anyway.

By: Apple Collecting FaceTime Location & iPhone 4 OTA Updates on AT&T?

Apple Collecting FaceTime Location & iPhone 4 OTA Updates on AT&T? — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:05:46 +0000

[...] and how the iOS 4 updates will be handled on AT&T.In a pretty dramatic writeup (and followup), AddictiveTips lays out the goods:- With iOS 4, AT&T locks all US iPhone owners to their network via regular [...]

By: Pourquoi FaceTime n’aime pas la portabilité du numéro :: LeMagIT Blogs

Pourquoi FaceTime n’aime pas la portabilité du numéro :: LeMagIT Blogs — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:51:25 +0000

[...] cela expliquerait la rumeur selon laquelle “les serveurs d’Apple reçoivent des messages à chaque fois que deux personnes sont connectée…” (des messages pouvant d’ailleurs n’être liés qu’à la connexion SIP [...]

By: YuccaTree Post + » Gerücht: Apple lauscht bei FaceTime und überprüft iOS4 auf Jailbreaks

Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:40:54 +0000

[...] ob das iPhone gehackt ist und sich noch im korrekten Netz befindet, schreibt jedenfalls “AddicitiveTipps”. “In iOS 4 there is a line of code which they wrote that sends OTA (Over The Air) updates to the [...]

By: Rumor: Apple capturing information on FaceTime calls | ZDNet

Rumor: Apple capturing information on FaceTime calls | ZDNet — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:17:38 +0000

[...] Tips posted the details of an alleged conversation with a member of the “iPhone Development [...]

By: Even more fail

Even more fail — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:44:49 +0000

How is that not clear enough for you. They can’t kill the phone but they will blacklist it. Is it that hard to read? Additionally, nowhere does it say Apple is going to go back in time and enforce this policy. It hasn’t happened before because the policy didn’t exist. I’m sure that Apple has screwed its fair share of customers. Every company does it. If you don’t go and complain nothing happens and no one ever knows about it.

By: micked

micked — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:37:33 +0000

this is cop & paste from: http://thefirmwareumbrella.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html

As many of you have noticed, the new shsh files contain a new key named APTicket. I still need to do a more thorough investigation of this key but my gut tells me that it is an indication that Apple intends to try to stop us from bypassing their TSS server for local restores.

My guess is that in future versions of iTunes, Apple will probably handle the TSS request/response and later this year implement the code to process the response in the actual bootrom of the device. Here’s what I mean:

1. The newer iTunes versions will send a certificate request in the TSS request by adding a new key to the TSS request.
2. Their TSS server will create a new certificate with an effective date attached to it. (Making it invalid if used after that date)
3. Until the new bootrom rolls out, iTunes will handle the decrypting of the response blobs using the nifty new signed certificate response ala APTicket.
4. Once Apple ships new devices with the bootrom capable of validating the new APTicket (or whatever they call it in the future) they can add logic to check the bootrom of the device and conditionally process the response from the TSS server(for old bootroms) or allow the device to process it(for new bootroms).

Looking at the above, it’s a fairly bullet-proof means of stopping local restores. Since the APTicket will be signed and likely shsh’ed I wouldnt be surprised if they load APTicket or something like unto it BEFORE the LLB is loaded. This way they can not only control what VERSION of the firmware you install, they can also control WHEN you can install it by a means with far longer and sharper teeth.

If they implement the above, the only means of restoring will be via jailbroken device.

Fun times ahead for sure…

By: Jonathan Feliciano

Jonathan Feliciano — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:33:28 +0000

can i still jailbreak my phone and be okay? im still on AT&T but i can have cydia?

By: anhell28

anhell28 — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:21:59 +0000

this is just part of what our goverments have in store for us,open your eyes people!

By: mmmmmmmm

mmmmmmmm — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:10:26 +0000

I call NOT BS. At least part of this is true. If you look at the agreement for iOS 4, quoted on Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5569711/great-news-apple-now-knows-where-you-are-and-will-tell-others

Read from the software agreement from iOS4:
To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services.

Even though it’s “anonymous”, all they have to do is match up the info to your device ID number or the habits you do on your iPhone and they know who you are. This also allows them to track the FaceTime thing. O_O

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Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:18:51 +0000

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By: Jose

Jose — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:41:51 +0000

Please Help!
So I have an iPhone 3G and i am currently on firmware 3.1.3,
will I get affected too if I upgrade to iOS4? or does this only apply to the iPhone 4?
I don’t have plans to unlock my iPhone because I am with AT&T, my concern is that I won’t be able to jailbreak my iPhone in the future if I update to iOS4. What do you recomend I do if do want to jailbreak my iPhone 3G in the future? should I stay with 3.1.3 or downgrade to 3.1.2? or will I be fine jailbreaking on iOS4?